The Genealogy Thread

Something I just recently got into was Genealogy. It's really quite easy nowadays on-line. I mainly was interested just documenting ancestors back to maybe the early 1800's, but it's so hard to stop right there.

So far I've found a real mix of bloodlines, on my mother's side we're Irish, English and Dutch (so far). My Dad's side is Irish and English...in fact today I followed my line back to John DeBotetourt, who was a son of Edward I and a mistress.

I always just knew I had Royal blood in me!

I once tracked down my family tree down to the napoleontic age for a school project, and I was surprised to discover that we have been Dutch all the freakin' time.

My ancestors on my fathers' side back then were succesively called Maas Maassen four times in a row it seems. I was planning on doing my mothers side of the tree as well, but I didn't get much farther than my great-grandfather. It seems that I probably have some German blood as well as my mother's maiden name is "fakkeldij", but I am not able to prove this.

If anyone has time to devote to this, it's something I really recommend. I had now idea I could trace back to the 1100's, let alone a royal house. Admittedly there are thousands and thousands of others also descended from similar so it's nothing really special but it's still quite cool.

Interesting, I think im part Irish / English. But then most Aussies are anyway.

You don't still have your prison record framed and hanging on the wall?

I know that there are two obvious parts for me, Welsh and English...which aren't surprising given where I live. I am however informed that part of me is Norwegian as well, and even some Canadian mixed in there somewhere, so I'm told.

One of my ancestors was a murderor. Watch out.

You've adopted his tendencies, then?

At least you direct them at the English language rather than its speakers.

I am pleased to say that I have a few ancestors of note. On the Irish side, there is a (relatively) direct line to the kings of the south, but on my father's side, we have two Knights Templar and Tomas Koschman who was a merchant who was one of the sponsors of The Mayflower's famous trip to America.

There is also a good chance that Hears and I share a common ancestor, based upon the surnames!

Jeremy wrote:You've adopted his tendencies, then?

At least you direct them at the English language rather than its speakers.

I approve of this humour!

RedCleft! wrote:One of my ancestors was a murderor. Watch out.

Only one?

wagi wrote:

RedCleft! wrote:One of my ancestors was a murderor. Watch out.

Only one?

I don't think serial killers still count as murderers.

I'm related to my mum.

Aiaiaiaidaiaian wrote:I'm related to my mum.

So you think!

I think we need to get Jeremy Kyle on the case!


(not Jermery from these forums!)

Jonathan wrote:

Aiaiaiaidaiaian wrote:I'm related to my mum.

So you think!

"TURN OFF THAT COMPUTER NOW!!!"

I found a bunch of Welsh and Scottish ancestors as well...even one who lost his head by a vote of the Scottish Parliament!

Aiaiaiaidaiaian wrote:

Jonathan wrote:

Aiaiaiaidaiaian wrote:I'm related to my mum.

So you think!

"TURN OFF THAT COMPUTER NOW!!!"

I must explain that this is what Aiaiaidiaaan's mother shouted at him one evening when we were speaking... it was rather awkward to listen to!

wagi wrote:even one who lost his head by a vote of the Scottish Parliament!

I wish to hear(s) more about this story!

Jonathan wrote:
I must explain that this is what Aiaiaidiaaan's mother shouted at him one evening when we were speaking... it was rather awkward to listen to!

She might have been talking to you!

One of my ancestors was Sir Robert Spottiswoode, James the 1st appointed him one of the extraordinary judges of the court of session in Scotland, then Charles the 1st appointed him a Lord of session (whatever that means...). He was disliked by the Scots and forced to move to England where he was close to the King. In 1645 he was appointed secretary of state for Scotland, journeyed north with a commission for the Marquis of Montrose, as lieutenant-governor and captain-general of all his majesty’s forces in Scotland, he was given power to summon a parliament. He was captured by the Scots as the royalist army was defeated at Philiphaugh. He was tried by the Scottish Parliament, and beheaded at St. Andrews, on 16th January 1646. The axe with which his head was cut off is still preserved in the College library, St. Andrews. I don't have much information other than that, other than to note that he didn't seem well liked by the Scots...

Scots arent the only ones who dont like you....

wagi wrote:One of my ancestors was Sir Robert Spottiswoode, James the 1st appointed him one of the extraordinary judges of the court of session in Scotland, then Charles the 1st appointed him a Lord of session (whatever that means...). He was disliked by the Scots and forced to move to England where he was close to the King. In 1645 he was appointed secretary of state for Scotland, journeyed north with a commission for the Marquis of Montrose, as lieutenant-governor and captain-general of all his majesty’s forces in Scotland, he was given power to summon a parliament. He was captured by the Scots as the royalist army was defeated at Philiphaugh. He was tried by the Scottish Parliament, and beheaded at St. Andrews, on 16th January 1646. The axe with which his head was cut off is still preserved in the College library, St. Andrews. I don't have much information other than that, other than to note that he didn't seem well liked by the Scots...

The most simple reason is that he was either English or a Scot seen to be in the employ of the English. We're talking about a period where there is much religious upheaval and a movement to make Scotland a sovereign country. I suppose the average Scot would have considered him to be in charge of an invading army, much like the Irish felt during the Troubles.

I doubt it would have made a difference if he had spent all day giving sweets to orphans, he'd most likely have been executed regardless...

...and I suspect he probably had the Wagi hairy back (and the Scots have never liked that!)

El Our LORD And MASTER, SIR FROG wrote:
...and I suspect he probably had the Wagi hairy back (and the Scots have never liked that!)

Hypocrites.

^Exactly! Especially from a group where the men wear dresses and TRUE Scotsmen forgo undergarments!

wagi wrote:^Exactly! Especially from a group where the men wear dresses and TRUE Scotsmen forgo undergarments!

A group of bridesmaids notice a Scot in kilts, and eventually, one is dared to approach him. Without a word, she sticks her hand under the kilt and fumbles around!

"Oh!" she proclaims "It's gruesome!"

"Aye" replies the Scot "put ye hand up there agin and it'll grewsome more!"

My shoes tremble with delight!!


Now, who wants to explain it to HedgeCleft?

I vote that Hears and Blarg get to "do it" together!

My shoes trembled as well!

I've made it as far back as the mid-800's on a couple lines.

I found ties to many of the royal houses of Europe - those people were terribly interbred! Sort of an Medieval Arkansas. I suspect that many had just as many teeth too. Also have a Pope, and Holy Roman Emperors showing up there too. Several persons had notations that they died while on Crusades.

Many, MANY people died on Crusade.......a lot of which didn't even make it to the Middle East!